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This week on The DYOJO Podcast we share some more property restoration history. If you listen to IAQ Radio on Fridays, you know that Cliff Zlotnik always opens the show with a question. Joe Hughes and the Z Man are the OG's of property restoration podcasting. They were podcasting before that was even an option, broadcasting live in the 2000's over internet radio. 
We speak to this restoration founding father's sons and several others about these historic contributions that birthed the water damage mitigation industry. Cliff Zlotnik shared, "His invention of the air mover was probably the most significant invention for our industry. It was a brilliant idea. It was simple. And do you know what's even crazier? His idea to put it underneath the carpet and float the carpet." 
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How important is moisture documentation? It is the key to getting paid for disaster response and property restoration projects large or small. As we continue our discussion regarding Robert Jordan Construction (RJC) versus the Arlington Independent School District (AISD), it would appear a lack of documentation cost this contractor upwards of $1.2 million dollars.  For Episode 96 of The DYOJO Podcast, we will review elements of water damage documentation, including
Hear more on Cliff Zlotnik's recommendations to contractors who want to learn to do things the right way but feel like they have to filter through industry BS in order to do so. Cliff, who has heard it all in his decades of working in this industry, says that filtering through industry information begins with a simple question. He says, “Ask them to explain to you simply. How does it work? Imagine that I'm a six-year-old and explain it to me.” Mr. Zlotnik says if this test was good enough for Albert Einstein it should be good enough for our industry. He continues, “If these people cannot explain it to a six-year-old, they don't understand it themselves.”  If the RJC vs. AISD case intrigues you, please refer to past episodes, including
Episode 92 the DYOJO team and guests introduced the preceding events and the outline of the case currently being litigated in the court of appeals for the second district of Texas. Episode 93 explores the backstory of Robert Jordan and his award-winning construction company. Episode 95 contrasts this case with one out of Puyallup, Washington where a contractor successfully defending their work under contract against a local city that terminated their services. IN THE DYOJO PODCAST EPISODE 96: 0:00 Moisture documentation for storm response 0:47 Property restoration litigation 4:54 Shorten, not shortcut, your learning curve with Whitney Wiseman 7:08 Moisture mapping with Josh Winton 12:26 RJC vs AISD agreement and documentation with Bebo Crain 23:57 Drying science and training with Cliff Zlotnik 33:49 Cliff on what Lloyd Weaver would say to the modern restorer 36:15 Setting yourself up for success with Cliff Zlotnik Thursdays are for The DYOJO Podcast - helping contractors shorten their DANG learning curve for personal and professional development.   Property restoration historian and watchdog, Pete Consigli, writes, "Lloyd [Weaver] introduced the first specialty designed Porta Dryer for on-location wet carpet drying. While that might not seem like much in today's sophisticated world, 35 years ago (written in 2007) Lloyd's methodology challenged the rug cleaning establishment and its in-plant wet carpet service." Lloyd Weaver is an icon of the water damage restoration industry, he is the man behind many of the core inventions of the modern age of property restoration as well as an early educator who trained many other industry contributors; as well as butted heads with a few others. This is an extended clip, with new content, from a prior conversation (Episode 87) with another industry Founding Father, Cliff Zlotnik. Writing for Cleaning and Restoration (C&R) Magazine in March 2007, Pete Consigli identified Martin "Marty" L. King, Lloyd Weaver, Cliff Zlotnik, and Claude Blackburn as the Four Faces on Mount Restoration. This video includes some additional footage with Cliff, Jim Thompson as well as part of our conversation with Lloyd Weaver's two sons and grandson, all of whom are still active in the industry. Learn more at PropertyRestorationHistory.com In this video: 0:00 Lloyd Weaver 1:00 Lloyd invents the Porta Dryer 2:50 A discussion with Lloyd's two sons 6:45 Cliff learns water damage from professor Weaver 9:10 Cliff & Lloyd as business partners 11:00 Mr. Weaver learned through trial and error 12:30 Lloyd's restoration industry friends YouTube.com/thedyojo 12am PST Thursdays THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Institute of Inspection Cleaning Restoration Certification (IICRC) Advocate Claim Service (ACS) THURSDAYS ARE FOR The DYOJO Podcast INFOtainment to help you shorten your DANG learning curve. New episodes of The DYOJO Podcast are released on Thursdays via video through YouTube and/or audio is distributed through platforms such as Apple, Spotify, Google, etc. READ MORE in The DYOJO Blog Additional Resources from The DYOJO: BRAND NEW: How To Suck Less At Estimating: Habits For Better Project Outcomes (book 4) Be Intentional: Estimating (book 1) Be Intentional: Culture (book 2) So, You Want To Be A Project Manager (book 3) Property Restoration History dot com  Industry icon and property restoration founding father Cliff Zlotnik can be heard weekly on the O.G.'s of industry podcasting, IAQ Radio. Among his many contributions to the professional practice of water and fire damage remediation, Cliff developed an anti-microbial product that was ubiquitous in the industry. There was a time when you would be hard pressed to find a carpet cleaning extraction van or water damage emergency response vehicle that didn't have at least one gallon of Microban on the shelf (or rattling around in the cabin). For this week's episodes of The DYOJO Podcast (#87) Cliff shares a few stories about this product, some historical figures, and a few other nuggets of wisdom that will be of great benefit to intentional restorers. In this episode 0:00 The DYOJO Podcast Episode 87 5:30 I put that *Microban* on everything 13:00 Cleaning vs. disinfecting vs. sanitizing 24:00 Lloyd Weaver - Restoration Founding Father 28:30 Martin "Marty" L. King - Restoration Founding Father 35:30 Ed York - Founder of IICRC 40:30 Thoughts from Cliff for the modern restorer The podcast includes clips from The DYOJO Podcast Episode 60 and Episode 81. Pop-ups and shout-outs include:
YouTube.com/thedyojo 12am PST Thursdays THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS:
THURSDAYS ARE FOR The DYOJO Podcast INFOtainment to help you shorten your DANG learning curve. New episodes of The DYOJO Podcast are released on Thursdays via video through YouTube and/or audio is distributed through platforms such as Apple, Spotify, Google, etc. READ MORE in The DYOJO Blog Additional Resources from The DYOJO:
The DYOJO Podcast released a clip titled, "Igniter of an Industry - Remembering Martin "Marty" L. King." This phrase was penned by an industry Founding Father recognizing another property restoration historical icon, Cliff Zlotnik. Unfortunately Marty passed away in 2015, but as our good friend Pete Consigli, who is also the technical advisor for PropertyRestorationHistory.com, says, “Marty had a vision for a new and emerging industry he called “damage repair.” Marty’s life’s work was to see the business of damage repair evolve into a profession. Fifty years after Marty had that dream, the legacy of the restoration industry is in the hands of those he influenced and many of those people are preparing to pass on the stewardship of the industry to the next generation. It is the hope of many that the next generation will take the industry to a place never imagined by the industry’s founders.” In this video, which originally aired as part of The DYOJO Podcast Episode 85, we talk to John Pletcher. Mr. Pletcher was awarded the 2022 MLK Award at the Restoration Industry Association (RIA) Annual Convention. John shares his fond memories of being mentored by and working with Marty. Tell me if you've heard this one, Pete Consigli, Cliff Zlotnik, John Downey, Jeff Cross, and Jon Isaacson walk into a bar... Three episodes of Straight Talk with Jeff Cross include a lineup of:
These guests, and more, were all in attendance for the amazing AEML Winter Break 2022 - The Florida Mold Conference which addressed the topics of Moisture, Mold, Materials, and Methodologies from from an undisclosed location in Deerfield Beach, Florida. Somehow, during the action packed agenda of all star presentation after all star presentation form some of the greatest minds in these interrelated industries, Jeff Cross was able to coerce these guests to join him for his video podcast, Straight Talk.
Controversies Over Water Damage StandardsCliff Zlotnik and Pete Consigil discussed some of their questions during the development and revisions of the water and mold remediation standards as well as the origins of The Restoration Watchdogs. From Straight Talk, "Both Pete Consigli and Cliff Zlotnik are dedicated, passionate industry advocates and have spent decades as the industry’s watchdogs. In this segment of Straight Talk!, they discuss how the industry has evolved and the work they have done to help the modern restorer." The Origins of Cleanfax and the future of CIRIFrom Straight Talk, "John Downey calls himself a "formerly important person" but he is far from hanging up his hat and retiring. The founder of Cleanfax is busy with his work as the executive director of CIRI, the Cleaning Industry Research Institute. In this special on-location interview, Downey discusses his work and what he is doing to help promote the value of cleaning." The Origins of The DYOJO PodcastFrom Straight Talk, "Jon Isaacson is the host of The DYOJO Podcast and is known as The Intentional Restorer. In this episode of Straight Talk!, Jon proves to be a challenging guest but an entertaining one at the same time." |
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